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 Post subject: Re: mk e's Shop remodel
PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:30 am 
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Nice progress! No floor drain?


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 Post subject: Re: mk e's Shop remodel
PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:05 pm 
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I almost did....but decided that the drain is where all my really important screws and nuts would end up :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: mk e's Shop remodel
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:28 am 
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Busy holiday weekend...I'm tired today.

The walls are all built and up. There is a little bit left to do that I skipped to be able get them standing I daylight, but I'll try to finish up under the lights this week and hope to have the sheeting on by the end of next weekend.

I was able to pull the walls up with a come-along. The sides went right up. The front and back I thought I was going to break the rope....the front is REALLY heavy and all the weight is at the top so I used the floor jack and the left over blocks and scrap wood to get it about 4 feet up before swirching to the rope....it worked.

The roof trusses are due about the first week of december they say....and I'm pretty seriously thinking it's time to call in the Amish crew to finish up.


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 Post subject: Re: mk e's Shop remodel
PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:53 am 
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Ah, Ha: No need to go to the GYM!


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 Post subject: Re: mk e's Shop remodel
PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:27 am 
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Lowell_Brown wrote:
Ah, Ha: No need to go to the GYM!

That's for sure! I feel old.....

I'm also worried it's going way over budget. I had it inn my head the cost would be about $15k.....but Lana tells me we're at about $20k so far, including the trusses i ordered and calling in a crew to add a roof will be $5-6k with the materials I don't yet have. Then it still needs doors, windows, electric, insulation, drywall, heat .......its going to hit $35 even with me doing everything I can myself....and that is money I simply do not have to spend...... :cry:

But for today, it needs sheeting installed and a roof, I'll worry about tomorrow tomorrow.


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 Post subject: Re: mk e's Shop remodel
PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 3:27 pm 
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My neighbor built a free-standing 1-car garage for about $6K. Came in a kit, with all the framing and rafters, etc. pre-cut. All he had to do was pour a foundation and enlist some labor. So I decided to build a 3-car, Shouldn't cost more than $18K, right? Wrong. I decided to add it to the end of the old attached 2-car garage, and turn that into a shop, which meant matching the roofline and shingles exactly. And scissor trusses to provide clearance for a 2-post lift. And a half-bath, and dormers to match the rest of the house, and brick to match the rest of the house... and on, and on...

I did a lot of the work, electrical, insulation, plumbing, and helped with the framing. Even learned from my mason how to lay brick. Spent many hours up on a double scaffold with the wiring, insulation, taping drywall, texturing, painting, etc. Total cost $35K (in 1998 dollars), not including my labor, and that of a lot of friends.

Still standing after 20 years, and I've spent a lot of happy, productive hours out there. It will cost more than you expected. But every dollar is well spent, and will seem insignificant in a couple of years. Put in lots of lighting, and you can never have enough 20A outlets. Even put in 220, and a 200A breaker box. And heat, you gotta have heat...


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Nevada Mike wrote:
...I decided to add it to the end of the old attached 2-car garage, ... I did a lot of the work, electrical, insulation, plumbing, and helped with the framing. Even learned from my mason how to lay brick. Spent many hours up on a double scaffold with the wiring, insulation, taping drywall, texturing, painting, etc. Total cost $35K (in 1998 dollars), not including my labor, and that of a lot of friends.

Still standing after 20 years, and I've spent a lot of happy, productive hours out there. It will cost more than you expected. But every dollar is well spent, and will seem insignificant in a couple of years. Put in lots of lighting, and you can never have enough 20A outlets. Even put in 220, and a 200A breaker box. And heat, you gotta have heat...
I completely, completely agree.

I finished my garage expansion earlier this year where I pushed the back of my 2 car garage rearward to make it a 2 cars deep. One of the rear quarters is actually my shop; not for parking a 4th car. I have not added up all the bills because I want to be able to honestly tell my wife that I don't know how much it cost. I easily spent over $30k despite doing a huge amount of the labor myself although it included a full replacement of our 1978 furnace and A/C.

I agree on the electrical. Regarding HVAC, I did not ventilate the garage. Here doing so bumps the property tax category to more heavily taxed "conditioned living space."


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At least its not just me who has no concept of how to do a budget and stick to it :)

I got a little over 1/2 the sheathing on the walls yesterday, that should be wrapped up today. The trusses will be delivered the morning of 12/11 and I have an Amish crew standing by to meet the truck and complete all things roofing. The trusses themselves are $2300, $1350 to install plus I'll probably end up with about 2 hours of delivery crane time at $125/hr. Then $850 to sheet using the material I have it and $3300 to roof it using their materials.

Then that weekend I can wrap it and install the windows and doors and have an inside to work inside of for the winter.....at least thats the plan. The outside will still need stucco and a driveway but that is spring at this point I think and I'll need to do another pass on the grading before planting grass but again that's spring.




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Regarding HVAC, I did not ventilate the garage. Here doing so bumps the property tax category to more heavily taxed "conditioned living space."


Only if they know about it ;)


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It needs more nails in front, but the sheeting is on


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 Post subject: Re: mk e's Shop remodel
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Hmmmmmmm...........

The Amish crew will be here Monday morning to add the roof and its almost just in time.


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