Syscrush wrote:
It does my heart good to see you on solutions again. Very cool.
BTW - I don't know if it was on this thread or over on GRM, but I remember you mentioning concern about powder coating forged wheels (way back when you had those wheels made), as the powder baking temp can be pretty close to the annealing temp for aluminum. As it turns out, my powder coating guy runs his PC shop as a side gig, and his day job is as a mechanical engineer. Last night I was picking up some parts from him and (finally) took the time to ask him about this. He explained that a crystalline transformation like annealing doesn't just require temperature, it requires time. While the temperature for powder coating may be close to a temp that can anneal forged Al, the PC process has the part at those temps for only about 10 mins, while for annealing the time required would be 6+ hours. He said that in cases where there's any doubt, he refers to a "TTT curve" (Time, Temperature, Transformation) for the material to make sure that he stays away from the conditions that can weaken the part.
He also said that forged Al is relatively easy - the margin is not especially small, and the lighter forged wheels heat up and cool down faster than heavier cast wheels. He said that magnesium is way more stressful both because the margin is much narrower, and the risk of stuff actually starting on fire.
I know this isn't even close to a current topic now, but since you're the one who made me curious, I thought you'd like to know what he had to say about it.
We are drifting off current topic but I'm just starting a set of wheels for a guy. Everything you said it right as far as I know BUT the time is cumulative and its a FULL annealing at x temp takes y time deal so as the temperature rises, the gains begin to change. The areas with the highest residual stresses change 1st, that is the whole way tempering steel works. So yeah, you can PC wheels, but you need to be very mindful of the heat cycle you're using and the heat history....or you can just paint them and not worry which is why its the OEM solution

The last tire place I used damaged the paint on my wheel though.....so I understand wanting PC